We invite you to a two-part trip! You and your party of six are invited to a "mini-salon" at Györgyi Orosz's apartment, where we will talk to Peter Holtzer. Péter loves to deal with systems large and hopeless, is known to many as a pension consultant who has travelled to many countries around the world, and in recent years has started and run a science education foundation. He shares his experiences on these, as well as the interconnections between them, and the transitions between for-profit and civil life. Next time, he will be happy to welcome you to a Chemistry Mobile Lab session in a rural school, in a live environment, implemented by the Szabolcs Szabó Foundation.